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Svetlana de Rohan-Levashova.   Revelation

            you? Otherwise you would not kill them so brutally. Tell me, if you burn them in the
            end, then why do you subject them to those inhuman tortures before they go to the
            stake? Is the atrocity you do when you burn those poor things alive really not enough
            for you?

                  – They must repent and confess, Isidora! Otherwise their souls will not attain
            purity despite my committing them to the holy flames. They must be rid of the original
            devil in them. They must be purged of their dirty Gift! Otherwise their souls will come
            on Earth from the darkness and will again submerge into the same darkness... And I
            will not be able to do my duty – to join their fallen souls to God. Do you understand it,
            Isidora?
                  No, I did not understand... because to me it all sounded like the ravings of the
            maddest madman! Caraffa’s incomprehensible brain still was a riddle under seven
            seals for me. In my opinion nobody could guess it. Sometimes the Holy Pope seemed to
            be the cleverest and most intelligent person who knew much more than any ordinary
            well-read and well-educated man. As I told earlier, he was a wonderful interlocutor
            and  his  brilliant,  tenacious  and  sharp  mind  totally  captivated  the  audience,  but
            sometimes... the things he "uttered" were very far from something normal or clear.
            Where was his exceptional mind in those moments?

                  – I beg your pardon, Holiness, but you are talking to me! Why pretend?! What
            "God" are you talking about? And to what "God" do you wish to join the souls of these
            poor "sinners"? Besides, would you care to tell me what God you believe in? If, of
            course, you believe in anything at all...
                  Contrary to my expectations he did not explode in anger. He just smiled and
            pronounced in a tutorial tone:
                  – You see, Isidora, a person does not need God to believe in something.  – He
            laughed on seeing my dumbfounded face. – It’s rather funny to hear it exactly from me,
            isn’t it, Isidora? But truth is truth, although I understand that it sounds extremely
            strange coming from the Roman Pope’s mouth. But, I repeat, man does not need God.
            Another man is enough for this. Take Christ, for instance... He was simply a very gifted
            man, but, nevertheless, he was a MAN! He just needed  to walk on water, bring back
            to life a half-dead person and to perform several other examples of "hocus-pocus", and
            well, we just had to announce in the right way that he was a son of God (and therefore
            almost  God),  and  all  went  exactly  as  always  –  after  his  death  the  crowd  joyfully
            followed its Redeemer... without having the least idea what it was that he had redeemed

            for them... As I already told you before, one should know how to direct and prevail
            over people, Isidora. Only then can you have them under your total control.
                  – But you will never be able to control whole nations! You’ll need armies for that,
            Holiness! And even if we assume that you will subordinate them somehow, I am sure
            there will be brave people who will lead others to reconquer their freedom.

                  – You are absolutely right, Madonna. – Caraffa nodded. – Nations do not submit
            voluntarily. It is necessary to subdue them! But I am a not warrior and I hate militating.
            It causes huge and unnecessary inconvenience. Therefore in order to  subdue them
            peacefully, I use a very simple and reliable method – I destroy their past, because man
            is vulnerable without his past. He loses his ancestral roots, if he does not have his past.

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